How To Wire Service Distribution Box In An Rv
We like using lots of extra appliances (toaster, deep fryer, A/C, Television's, fans and more) With the 30 amp, when we add together 1 too many items, we blow the chief 30 amp excursion breaker. We exercise not want to use less SO:
I would like to add together a 2nd electrical panel to be tied into the separate fifty amp service plug (on our campground electric pedestal and which is bachelor at most other campgrounds). I would use a new and separate fifty amp cord to feed a new xxx,40 or 50 amp panel (not sure which is all-time for safety issues)
I want to so add some well placed dissever receptacles to the NEW panel, which I will locate some where convenient on the TT. I don't really need a full 50 amp 2nd service but as it may be available (although I believe most campgrounds really just have a 50 amp (total) service with merely a 30 amp breaker and receptacle available for 30 amp users. (50 amps available not fourscore amps)
What I would accomplish is that, when available, I could plug in both my existing 30 amp plugin and the new 2d 50 amp plugin. (once more both feeding split panels on the TT) but now existence able to use the total 50 amp of service available.
I would use the second plugin service for but those "extra/overload" items similar the fans, electrical frying pans, deep fryer, outside lighting and such.
I would really appreciate some feedback on this idea before I push ahead. I am hoping others take completed such a project and have some feel to laissez passer forth.
One thing to think near is: are the pedestals in RV campgrounds installed with total ampacity of 100 amps or greater? Most of them have two or three receptacles, 50A, 30A, and 20A but tin they all be used at the aforementioned time? You also may run into contractural problems with the CG mangement using both the 50A and 30A services, some offer different rates (the 50A service being greater), depending on what yous need to hook upwards.
I recall replacing the 30 amp load middle with l amp service would serve y'all well. A workaround may exist to use the 20A service in addition to the 30 amp. A cord that connects to a subpanel with a single xx amp breaker might run into your needs.
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BBdawg wrote:
The thing that concerned me was that many campgrounds practise not offer as many 50amp service/sites and by permanently upgrading my tt to a 50amp, could mayhap limit me - but now as I retrieve nigh it, I judge a 30 amp to fifty amp adapter would suffice when only a thirty amp service is available, and so no problem.
OK, great betoken!
I did exactly what you lot are considering and information technology is documented in the kickoff ten or so pics and captions in the "trailer mods" link in my signature.
Larry
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Weekend Warrior used to offer a dealer installed l amp upgrade. What they did was install a 50 amp console in the basement of the RV, and and so use a 30 amp breaker to feed the factory installed 30 amp circuit breakers within the RV, and then install new breakers to feed the twenty amp air conditioner, a 120 volt circuit for a air compressor, and anything else the possessor wanted installed.
You would buy a 125 amp rated panel (panel rating must exceed the load you intend to put on information technology) and put in a l amp ii pole master breaker, 30 amp to feed the existing ability cord, and equally many 20 amp breakers as you plan on using. I would likewise suggest running a twenty amp wire to the existing console, and tie into the A/C unit of measurement, then that it will be powered past the new panel. If y'all do this for your kitchen circuit breaker, you lot might not find yous demand to install that many more new receptacles.
I might install a white GFI and a Ivory GFI, then you will know what is what, and remember that each has it's own circuit billow, fed from the chief 50 amp panel. You will know that you can plug in a coffee maker to i, toaster to the other, and non trip anything.
Wiring is pretty simple. Only brand sure to balance the loads, so that there is close to equal loads on each phase. So put i new GFI on the left stage, 1 on the right stage (the excursion breakers close to each other). Besides put the A/C on 1 phase, the 30amp panel on the other phase. If you lot take ii A/C units, put one on each phase, and the trailer should go on the stage yous think will get less amperage on information technology (the least likely to run A/C unit of measurement).
Then I would run a new half-dozen gauge cord to the new panel, claw up the crimson and black wires to the 50 amp 2 pole breaker, then the white wire to the isolated bussbar, the green wire to the bussbar attached to the frame of the new electrical panel. The campground finish of the 50 amp cord uses a standard l amp range plug. You lot tin buy this at the hardware store likewise!
Fred.
LarryJM wrote:
BBdawg wrote:
OK, cracking point!
I did exactly what you are because and it is documented in the first 10 or so pics and captions in the "trailer mods" link in my signature.
Larry
I searched every which way I could recall of to discover a link like yours and went back page after page of one-time posts merely never saw one identified as a "2nd console".
I only did non search correctly, but Thanks Much for the info and input.
Golden_HVAC wrote:
Hi,
Weekend Warrior used to offer a dealer installed 50 amp upgrade.
Fred.
Wow, Perfect Setup. This fits exactly what I am looking for.
Y'all guys are terrific!
We also ever use the 20AMP sevice for running our 120VAC oil-filled electric heaters when it is cool at night from a couple of extension cords plugged into the 20AMP pedstal service receptacle. Of grade with the POPUP it is easy to run the extension cords within the trailer but the hard side trailers unremarkably have a good path inside the trailer from the laissez passer thru storage area.
Something to consider maybe... Might be but enough actress power to go along you lot from tripping the main service 30AMP connectedness.
Just read a post on here yesterday about a guy having someone rig his trailer up for 50AMP service and he now has blowed upwards almost all of his 120VAC appliances. Very expensive to replace all of that stuff at one time. Sounded similar from his postal service write upwards information technology all happened with the inital power up. I would non let any of the licensed electric folks mess with information technology unless they have had RV electrical on-easily experience. There is just plenty difference between House and RV electric wiring to really get you into BIG trouble. The unknowing will immedately want to wire it up like a house dress dryer connexion. Then yous have the hugh fight on your easily who is actually responsible for the large dollar blow up of all your 120VAC appliances...
Exist very conscientious out there swain RV'er...
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KD4UPL wrote:
I think you're making information technology too complicated. Y'all tin can switch out your existing breaker panel and ability cord in a couple of hours. Y'all would then have a perfectly normal 50 amp RV service. Information technology's simple, quick, and won't look like some weird cobbled wiring when it comes fourth dimension to sell the RV.
Information technology appears you oasis't
1. Priced out 35' 50A string and inlet which from Tweety'due south runs in excess of $450.
2. Held and seen how physically heavy a 50A string is and I just can't imagine trying to gyre that 2x4 up in colder weather.
3. Considered that in add-on to a new electrial console you will take to run a new wire from the inlet to the breaker panel.
Unless you desire to be limited to CGs with 50A service most 50A service I know of only have things similar the second A/C and perhaps a washer/dryer on the one side of the 50A service. I uncertainty you will observe critical items on that 50A side since if you take to only use 30A service than you loose the ability to use those items.
With what I did I kept all the orginal stuff and just added a couple of outlets to the 2nd 30A service to power things that in a demark I could but plug into a 30A service and use. Of course to practice this you really have to watch the ability direction then you won't blow the principal 30A breaker.
Larry
As nosotros are full time living in our TT, I would like to have a more permanent installation (no extension cords). Also, we have both a 50 amp service and 30 amp service at our permanent domicile location so when not traveling we tin can take advantage of this actress power without effect.
Later on reading your input and doing a lot of thinking, I retrieve I am now leaning toward leaving the xxx amp service as is, and just adding a 20 amp string and well placed receptacles to utilize the extra ability.
The extra toll to add a 50 amp cord/panel, as I was originally thinking, might not be very cost effective.
The employ of the 20 amp receptacle on the CG pedestals would certainly give me the means to run my deep fryer, electric frying pan and additional fans and lights when necessary. And so merely running a 20 amp string, along with the 30 amp cord, to a junction box on the back of the TT, then adding three-iv receptacles from there will be the most price constructive way to apply the extra power I seek.
For my abode location, I could just use a fifty amp to twenty amp pigtail every bit I do not have a twenty amp receptacle on my pedestal. Well, I guess that means my junction box should contain a twenty amp breaker to make sure I do not overload the 20 amp cord fastened to the 50 amp service?? That should keep all wiring safe.
I approximate I really did over think this by considering a 2nd panel or upgrading to a fifty amp service. I should have remembered our old pop-up camper days and kept it uncomplicated as pointed out by RoyB!!
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